Low-Pressure Chiller Purge

Chiller Purge Pump-Out Leak Check

Your purge controller reports pump-out minutes and says to check them "against factory recommended values" it does not print. Trane printed them, as a chart by tonnage. Enter the tons per circuit and the daily pump-out time and read Trane's own band, then take the leak to the calculator that applies the federal rule.

Field brief
The chart Trane CTV-SVX05H-EN (August 2020), page 7, Figure 2: purge minutes per day by chiller tons per circuit, 400 to 2000, in Trane's bands Typical Operation, Small Leak and Large Leak. 400 to 2000 tons
Typical ceiling about 4 min/day at 400 tons rising to 20 at 2000; the small-leak ceiling runs 28 to 60. A rule of thumb with no tonnage attached is right at one machine size. 4 to 20 min/day
Scope R-123 and R-514A CenTraVac chillers only, Trane's words for Trane's machines. The chart gives a band, never a leak-rate percent; that comes from the refrigerant you add, in the leak-rate calculator. R-123 / R-514A

Trane's Figure 2, Read as a Table

Band ceilings in purge minutes per day, read off Trane CTV-SVX05H-EN Figure 2 by two independent methods agreeing within 1 min/day. Trane draws bars, not a line; between tonnages this tool interpolates linearly and says so.
Tons per circuitTypical Operation up toSmall Leak up toLarge Leak up to
40042868
60063273
80083678
1000104085
1200124492
1400144899
16001652107
18001856113
20002060120

Page 7, verbatim: "Check operating logs and purge history for indications of excessive leaks. Small and large leaks can be identified by comparing the purge run minutes per day to the following figure." The large-leak ceiling is not a straight line (its steps run 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 8, 6, 7), which is why the three ceilings ship as nine points and not as a formula.


Why the Field's Rules of Thumb Disagree With Each Other

Ask on the trade forums what pump-out time means a leak and you will read fifteen minutes a week from one technician, around five minutes a day from another, fix it at five a day from a third and basically two a day from a fourth, sometimes in the same conversation. They differ by more than two to one and none of them names a tonnage. Trane's chart explains why they can all be sincere: the acceptable figure is a function of machine size, running from 4 minutes a day at 400 tons to 20 at 2000. A 500-ton circuit at 15 minutes a week is about 2 minutes a day, well inside typical operation (5 min/day ceiling); the same 15 minutes read as a daily figure would put it into the small-leak band.

The purge exists because a low-pressure chiller runs below atmospheric pressure in the evaporator, so a leak lets air in rather than refrigerant out, and the purge pumps that air (and the refrigerant vapor carried with it) out of the condenser. Pump-out time is therefore a measure of how much air is getting in, which is why Trane could build a leak chart from it. It is not a measure of pounds of refrigerant lost, which is what the federal leak repair rules count.


What Happens After the Band

Trane built Figure 2 from the average annual refrigerant leakage rate and the unit charge, and did not print the constants, so no honest tool can turn a band into a percent. The percent comes from the refrigerant you add back. The leak-rate calculator takes the appliance type, the refrigerant, the full charge and the pounds added, and applies the rule that reaches the appliance to the addition you enter there: for an R-123 chiller that is the Section 608 rule at 40 CFR 82.157, because HCFC-123 is a class II ozone-depleting substance and the AIM Act rule excludes it; for an R-514A chiller neither rule applies, because the blend contains no HFC and no ODS and its GWP is below the 53 cutoff. The link above carries the refrigerant, the appliance type and, if you entered it, the unit charge; it carries no addition, so the calculator opens asking for the pounds you added rather than pricing one for you.


Frequently Asked Questions

How many purge pump-out minutes per day is normal on a low-pressure chiller?

It depends on the size of the machine, and Trane publishes the answer as a chart rather than a number. Trane CTV-SVX05H-EN (August 2020), page 7, Figure 2 plots purge minutes per day against chiller tons per circuit from 400 to 2000 tons in three bands: Typical Operation, Small Leak and Large Leak. Read off the figure, typical operation runs up to about 4 minutes a day at 400 tons and about 20 at 2000 tons; a 400-ton circuit is into Trane's small-leak band above 4 and its large-leak band above 28, while a 2000-ton circuit has room to 20 and 60. A single figure such as five minutes a day is the chart read at 500 tons and is wrong at the others; fifteen minutes a week is about two a day, inside typical operation at every tonnage Trane plots, which is why it can sound right to one operator and tell another nothing. The chart is for R-123 and R-514A CenTraVac chillers; it is not a rule for other machines.

Does purge pump-out time tell me my leak rate under the EPA rule?

No. Trane's own caption says the figure "was created using the average annual refrigerant leakage rate to be calculated based on the daily purge pump out time and the unit refrigerant charge", and prints none of the constants that would let you run that backwards. So the chart tells you Trane's band, and that is all this tool reports. The leak repair rules (40 CFR 84.106 for HFC appliances, 82.157 for ozone-depleting refrigerants) are applied to the refrigerant you add back, on every addition. The leak-rate calculator link on this page carries the chiller's refrigerant and appliance type so the engine can do that; it does not carry an addition, so the calculator asks for the pounds you added.

Which leak repair rule reaches an R-123 chiller? An R-514A chiller?

R-123: Ozone-depleting substance (HCFC-123, class II under 40 CFR part 82 subpart A), excluded by 84.106(a)(3)(i). R-123 chillers stay under the Section 608 rule, 40 CFR 82.157, which reaches them at a full charge of 50 lb or more with the same 10 percent comfort-cooling trigger. R-514A: Non-HFC substitute with GWP 3 as EPA prints it in the Technology Transitions final rule; its constituents HFO-1336mzz(Z) (GWP 2) and HCO-1130(E) (GWP 5) at 74.7/25.3 percent by mass are both in Table 1 to 84.64(b), the table 84.106(a)(2) names, and mass-weight to 2.8; EPA's SNAP chiller listing prints 7. At or below the 53 cutoff at any of them, not covered. Neither constituent is a class I or class II ozone-depleting substance, so 82.157 does not reach it either. Both sentences are the leak-rate engine's own, and its calculator page applies the matching rule to your additions.

Why is the answer per circuit, and what about a machine with two circuits?

Because Figure 2's x-axis is "Chiller Tons per Circuit", not the nameplate tonnage of the whole machine. Read your controller's pump-out figure against the tonnage of the circuit that purge serves: a 1000-ton circuit has a typical-operation ceiling of 10 minutes a day whatever the machine around it adds up to. Trane's handling guide does not print how purges are arranged on a given model; your unit's own service literature does.

My tonnage is not one of Trane's nine bars. What does the tool do?

Trane plots 9 tonnages, 400 to 2000 in steps of 200. Between them the check reads the band ceilings linearly and says so on the result: a 500-ton circuit gets a typical-operation ceiling of 5, a small-leak ceiling of 30 and a large-leak ceiling of 70.5 minutes a day. Outside 400 to 2000 tons the check refuses rather than extrapolate a chart Trane did not draw. The two independent readings of the printed figure agree within 1 minute per day, and a reading that close to a boundary is flagged as being fairly readable either way.

Does this apply to a York, Carrier or other low-pressure chiller?

Not as printed. The chart is Trane's, for Trane's CenTraVac machines running R-123 or R-514A, and it says so on its cover. Another manufacturer's purge unit has its own capacity and its own factory recommended values, and the check does not guess them. What does carry over is the shape of the question: the acceptable pump-out time is a function of machine size, so any single scalar rule of thumb is wrong for most of the machines it is applied to.


Related Calculators

Found a leak band? Run the rule on the refrigerant you add.

The leak-rate calculator applies 40 CFR 84.106 or 82.157 to the refrigerant you add and lists the repair, verification and reporting deadlines in 84.106(d) to (j), or their 82.157 twins.